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Post by TheMightyPump on Sept 28, 2005 20:08:47 GMT
You all know the various arguments FOR and AGAINST legalising it so I won't go over them now. I just want to hear opinions about it.
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Post by Grothistan on Sept 28, 2005 20:12:18 GMT
I use it from time to time. I like the effects of THC, and consider it a nice alternative, for when you're not in the mood for alcohol. Also, when you're feeling stressed, there are few better alternatives. I have a strict rule about only using it socially, though.
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Post by The Red Factions on Sept 28, 2005 20:35:04 GMT
Same here - I personally prefer it to alcohol and am quite naturally in favour of legalisation.
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Post by Dobbyniania on Sept 28, 2005 20:46:59 GMT
Legalize it and every other illegal drug. The government has no right to jail you for putting substances in your body.
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Post by gilligus on Sept 28, 2005 20:55:46 GMT
The government doesn't penalize people who swallow a whole bottle of bleach do they?
"Oh, well bleach has everyday practical uses. Bad comparison."
Check again.
First off, marijuana isn't nearly as bad for you when consumed/smoked as bleach. Is that clear?
Now down to the real stuff.
As a cash crop, marijuana serves two purposes (practically): 1) Medicinal implications. We've all heard the arguments about glaucoma, other cancers, blood pressure problems, etc. 2)Hemp. Marijuana is MUCH easier and less costly to grow than cotton, it's not as harsh on the soil (doesn't drain all the nutrients like cotton) making it more renewable. It would be cheaper than cotton if legalized. The fabric produced is not only stronger than cotton, but it also won't shrink in the wash, and the fabric is easier to make from the raw product (less processing and clean).
So for those two benefits, don't you think it would be worth it to let people get high?
Besides, bleach is legal.
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Post by D.S. of Soviet Sexy Girls on Sept 29, 2005 0:07:13 GMT
I have an absolute hate of everything that is smoked, including marijuana. I'd be very sad if it is ever legalized in France or in a lot of countries. In fact I must say that I generally don't like law-breaking things... I reject the argument that it do not damage your health or addict you. My point : 1. You never smoke marijuana alone, it's always mixed with tobacco. Hell, tobacco is damaging your lung and after all, every smoke you breath damage them, marijuana's smoke included. 2. Addiction may not be physic, but after a certain level of consumption a psychic addiction appears. I do consume alcohol, which can be considered as a drug, but I don't see the need to get drunk or high. Others can found this amusing, I don't when you have to cope with drunk/high people saying nonsense, ignorant of hazards and acting like idiots...
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Post by canteria on Sept 29, 2005 0:20:52 GMT
I believe that people should have the right to use it, but it should be strongly discouraged. If it is illegal the black market will grow and there will be far more drug-related murders and crime.
Plus... Evolution in Action! <- (Sarcastic)
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Post by Grothistan on Sept 29, 2005 9:55:42 GMT
This is wrong. For example, pot can be smoked purely in a bong, joint, pipe etc. Secondly, many people mix it with brownies, coffee, etc. Others again just eat it raw.
It is most commonly mixed with tobacco, but it is far from the only way.
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Post by Revolutionary Masses on Sept 29, 2005 10:42:43 GMT
Quite Right SSG! I oppose it for recreational use totally, firstly health reasons, all SSG said was valid, plus you have the psycological reasons, I will not go into the genetics but recent studies have shown that a significant percentage of users increase the risk of mental illness. Additionally one drug can lead to another causing a house of cards effect where we end up with those who sarted on the "harmless" drug moving on to other more powerful drugs to keep getting the same effect. This also has massive social implications far to numerous to go into. Drugs are just a exploitive way at taking advantage of people for money though their apparent "needs", along with tabacco and alcohol, its sick.
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Post by gilligus on Sept 29, 2005 15:08:49 GMT
I am vehemently opposed to the use of drugs like cocain, heroin, opium, ecstacy, etc. Anything that has to be processed that much for use should stay out of our bodies (once again, I'm an agrarian).
RM, define mental illness. Plenty of people would call Lenin or Trotsky or Stalin "mentally ill" because of their willingness to kill for power/idealism, yet some, to this day, regard them as heroes.
If you ask me, instability is the foundation of creativity.
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Post by Paranoidm on Sept 29, 2005 15:43:14 GMT
Weed? Why not? What I do with my own body is my damn business.
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Post by Grothistan on Sept 29, 2005 16:54:35 GMT
Weed? Why not? What I do with my own body is my damn business. With the obvious exception of suicide-bombing... Isn't that a rather reactionary point of view? I mean, back in the middle ages, to criticize the king was to break the laws. In nazi germany, being a jew, jipsy, communist or informed catholic (to name a few) was to break the law. Besides, that statement is completely missing the point - We are discussing making it legal. In my opinion, that commonly repeated theory is pure bullshit. The reason that some users of cannabis move on to harder drugs, is that cannabis is illegal. If cannabis is illegal, who has it? Drug-dealers. Who sells hard drugs, like Angel Dust and cocaine? You guessed right, drug-dealers. Alcohol is legal, and you don't see a lot of people moving on to harder stuff, like bleach or medicinal alcohol. Another way to look at it, is what is most damaging for society - Keeping it illegal, or legalizing it. If we keep it illegal, thousands of young people (primarily) will get stains on their records, for possesion of a drug that is no more harming than alcohol. Many more thousands (and I'm just using small numbers, because I'm from a small country) will be offered highly dangerous drugs, because the people selling cannabis are often the same who are selling hard drugs. On the other hand, some that were tempted might not try it, out of fear. If we legalize it, we will have an entire new industry, which will be beneficial to the economy. The police can focus on cracking down on hard drugs. More will try it, but as with alcohol, far the majority will know how to use it with manners. Lastly, the sale of cookies will explode, because so many people have the munchies, which is again beneficial to the economy.
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Post by gilligus on Sept 29, 2005 17:15:53 GMT
I like the way you think, Grothistan. I know for sure that, as a kid, if my weed dealer hadn't sold shrooms and ecstasy, I sure as hell never would have even touched them. But hey, he said they were fun as hell, so naturally I thought "Why not?"
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Post by D.S. of Soviet Sexy Girls on Sept 29, 2005 20:04:34 GMT
I'm sometimes surprised by my own reactionary point of view on a limited number of issues (including drugs and civil disobedience in democracies...). Damn, I find a world were marijuana is legalized and as wide consumed as tobacco horrible. High people everywhere More seriously, the economical impact of a legalization would be fairly low, imo. And it would be very hard, even impossible to control all the market. Illegal selling (I mean outside of government's control) would continue, probably more in bigger countries such as France or the UK (Interesting to note that countries having legalize it are, mostly, rather small countries).
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Post by canteria on Sept 29, 2005 20:08:28 GMT
What, do you think there's an illegal ciggarette smuggling group out there? No, and the problems are magnified by drug-related voilence if they are illegal.
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