Post by Earthfirst on Sept 23, 2004 20:37:52 GMT
SCANDALS IN THE ADN!
Comrades of the Coalition --
With regions leaving the ADN, and even more talking about it, even the top ADN leadership is becoming nervous or so it seems. The departure of Greece, and the impending withdrawal of the ASE, as well as talks of leaving in England, have left many wondering if there is a concentrated effort to break the ADN after its recent reorganization. So far, every leave has been qualified as either "dead weight" going or "bad trash" by some higher-ranking ADN officials.
Even more distributing are the acts surrounding the departure and re-admittance of the region Aurora. Soon after posting his resignation speech for his region, Delegate Gothicville reapplied for admission into the ADN and revealed that his speech was in fact written by EuroSoviets, Strategos Proxonos of our closest ally, The Allied States of EuroIslanders. With the ASE leave of the ADN, as well as ES’ criticism of the new power structure a massive scandal has erupted surrounding the ASE, Aurora, and in some part, TPC.
Below is Gothicville’s speech to be re-admitted to the ADN:
I, Gothicville, would just like to clear my plate, by just telling you the truth.
Yes, EuroSoviets wrote those speeches. He betrayed me. He never told me Sector 5 was setup by Vazquez. I spoke to Vaz about this about 2 months ago. He told me he had nothing to do with it. Now I find out by Pope Hope that it was all set-up by Vazquez. I was leaving the ADN to side with Vaz, ES and others. I was going off to create an alliance with the people that have left ADN, but all that is going to change now. The people I trusted most betrayed me. Yes, I admit, I was influenced by many others, but I did feel the ADN was turning. Some of you may think EuroSoviets influenced me to leave. He did in a way. I do recall him telling him that I was going to leave soon if things don't get right. He told me to leave now. He said a lot of others are going to leave as well and if you leave, more would leave. He even said he would write a speech for me, and so I let him take over my opinion. I regret that now.
My point is that I am asking for forgivness from the ADN & would like to re-apply.
Thankyou for your time!!
Gothicville.
With this apology numerous high level ADN officials have naturally begun attacking comrade EuroSoviets. These attacks range from the relatively benign name of career politician to accusing EuroSoviets of high treason of the ADN. Gothicville claims that only selected information was given to him and he was used as a puppet to humiliate the ADN. Xha’dam, a member of our brother region, the Allied States of EuroIslanders, has stood defending EuroSoviets stating that his actions were neither manipulative nor malicious, that he was merely presenting his version of the story.
In this confused situation the facts are buried, and interpretations abound. Former ADN House Representative from the TPC Dobbyniania, had this to say on the situation.
For long now, the ASE and ADN have been at each others throats. The one constant criticism by the ADN is that the ASE contributes little to the overall defense of other regions and consists largely of members who only want to cause trouble. In reverse the ASE has accused the ADN of being a wholly undemocratic institution, which is particularly true with Pope Hope’s current martial law, whom is officially only going to end after "all reps have signed in"...
Members of the ADN have reacted and have banned access to the ASE as a whole in order to silent the complaints and criticism made by their members. While a vote is occurring in the ASE that will more than likely lead to its withdrawal from the ADN, as of this moment the ASE is officially still a member although not allowed to speak or voice their opinion. Ganchelkas, founder of Ganchelkian States, posted this on the ADN boards:
With this strange turn of events one can only wonder if EuroSoviets attempts to convince other regions to leave will be successful. The hostility within the ADN is growing, and there may come a day when any and all discussion is silenced with talks of treason. In solidarity with our sister region the ASE, we at the Voice of the Proletariat stand behind EuroSoviets and the ASE while not accusing the Alliance Defense Network nor picking sides. This is an internal matter, that needs to be settled between our brother region and The Alliance Defense Network. Unlike other members of the ADN whom have tried to influence our regional foreign policy by trying to convince us to
we believe that the ADN has nothing to say in how to conduct own foreign policy towards our allies.
The politics of NS can be confusing at time so no blame can definitely be laid at the feet of anyone, wether it is the ADN or the ASE. Still these debates highlight insecure transition of the ADN.
In peace and solidarity,
Earthfirst
Comrades of the Coalition --
With regions leaving the ADN, and even more talking about it, even the top ADN leadership is becoming nervous or so it seems. The departure of Greece, and the impending withdrawal of the ASE, as well as talks of leaving in England, have left many wondering if there is a concentrated effort to break the ADN after its recent reorganization. So far, every leave has been qualified as either "dead weight" going or "bad trash" by some higher-ranking ADN officials.
Even more distributing are the acts surrounding the departure and re-admittance of the region Aurora. Soon after posting his resignation speech for his region, Delegate Gothicville reapplied for admission into the ADN and revealed that his speech was in fact written by EuroSoviets, Strategos Proxonos of our closest ally, The Allied States of EuroIslanders. With the ASE leave of the ADN, as well as ES’ criticism of the new power structure a massive scandal has erupted surrounding the ASE, Aurora, and in some part, TPC.
Below is Gothicville’s speech to be re-admitted to the ADN:
I, Gothicville, would just like to clear my plate, by just telling you the truth.
Yes, EuroSoviets wrote those speeches. He betrayed me. He never told me Sector 5 was setup by Vazquez. I spoke to Vaz about this about 2 months ago. He told me he had nothing to do with it. Now I find out by Pope Hope that it was all set-up by Vazquez. I was leaving the ADN to side with Vaz, ES and others. I was going off to create an alliance with the people that have left ADN, but all that is going to change now. The people I trusted most betrayed me. Yes, I admit, I was influenced by many others, but I did feel the ADN was turning. Some of you may think EuroSoviets influenced me to leave. He did in a way. I do recall him telling him that I was going to leave soon if things don't get right. He told me to leave now. He said a lot of others are going to leave as well and if you leave, more would leave. He even said he would write a speech for me, and so I let him take over my opinion. I regret that now.
My point is that I am asking for forgivness from the ADN & would like to re-apply.
Thankyou for your time!!
Gothicville.
With this apology numerous high level ADN officials have naturally begun attacking comrade EuroSoviets. These attacks range from the relatively benign name of career politician to accusing EuroSoviets of high treason of the ADN. Gothicville claims that only selected information was given to him and he was used as a puppet to humiliate the ADN. Xha’dam, a member of our brother region, the Allied States of EuroIslanders, has stood defending EuroSoviets stating that his actions were neither manipulative nor malicious, that he was merely presenting his version of the story.
In this confused situation the facts are buried, and interpretations abound. Former ADN House Representative from the TPC Dobbyniania, had this to say on the situation.
Not only was this whole situation conveniently timed but its factual basis is rather shaky. The main crux of Gothicville’s claims is that the ASE manipulated him into thinking that the ADN spied on him and the freedom alliance. After talking with ADN officials Gothicville now thinks that since the spy was from Section 5 it must have been only Alcatraz whom was spying on him, as it is said that this is an Alcatraz only forum. But anyone with the slightest amount of investigatory prowess knows that this is pure hogwash because as was revealed in the Ireland scandal many high ranking non Alacatraz people had access to Section 5 including people like Goobergrunchia, BC, and others. With the inclusion of high level members of Naiscournia in section 5 access, one could argue that even without clear evidence the Naiscournia links alone give a high probability that director pope hope herself had access to the board or at least knowledge of what was on the board.
For long now, the ASE and ADN have been at each others throats. The one constant criticism by the ADN is that the ASE contributes little to the overall defense of other regions and consists largely of members who only want to cause trouble. In reverse the ASE has accused the ADN of being a wholly undemocratic institution, which is particularly true with Pope Hope’s current martial law, whom is officially only going to end after "all reps have signed in"...
Members of the ADN have reacted and have banned access to the ASE as a whole in order to silent the complaints and criticism made by their members. While a vote is occurring in the ASE that will more than likely lead to its withdrawal from the ADN, as of this moment the ASE is officially still a member although not allowed to speak or voice their opinion. Ganchelkas, founder of Ganchelkian States, posted this on the ADN boards:
It has become clear over the past few days that the ASE conspires against the ADN and wishes to destabilize the ADN because their attempts to manipulate us have failed. They try to convince as many Regions as possible to leave us and they will most likely harass new applicants as well. I have heard some claim they won't close the withdrawal vote in their Assembly in order to have access to our forums longer.
I say we put an end to this and restrict their access now.
I say we put an end to this and restrict their access now.
With this strange turn of events one can only wonder if EuroSoviets attempts to convince other regions to leave will be successful. The hostility within the ADN is growing, and there may come a day when any and all discussion is silenced with talks of treason. In solidarity with our sister region the ASE, we at the Voice of the Proletariat stand behind EuroSoviets and the ASE while not accusing the Alliance Defense Network nor picking sides. This is an internal matter, that needs to be settled between our brother region and The Alliance Defense Network. Unlike other members of the ADN whom have tried to influence our regional foreign policy by trying to convince us to
Dump the Allied States of EuroIslanders
we believe that the ADN has nothing to say in how to conduct own foreign policy towards our allies.
The politics of NS can be confusing at time so no blame can definitely be laid at the feet of anyone, wether it is the ADN or the ASE. Still these debates highlight insecure transition of the ADN.
In peace and solidarity,
Earthfirst